In the midst of the Summer 2019, I added the ability to listen to music to Hapy, the 1972 TDI-powered microbus (See Making Hapy Sounds Part 2, for example). Today, I start my revisit with the front speakers. In this part of the front speaker improvement, I create
very very small speaker boxes for a pair of 5-1/4" speakers with materials readily available at the hardware store; remove
the speakers from the door cards and mount them into those speaker boxes; and last, get it all into the bus. Unlike most of my posts, the overwhelming majority of the measurements are in inches rather than mm. This is because here in the US, all of the published material about speakers is in inches. So, any information I put here can be more easily cross-referenced.
Why?
Diablo Royale pod |
I decided to replace the pressed cardboard cards with a laser-cut PVC set from WerksBerg. These precision-cut PVC cards are great, and many options are available, but a pre-cut hole for speakers is not one of them. I decided that I didn't really want to cut the PVC. This leads to our second reason: while the sound was okay, it wasn't awesome and maybe it could be better while driving. The only real upside to the speakers being in the doors was the added sound we got in the music festival camping lot when we opened the passenger door. When driving around, there was music, but it lacked some clarity. Of course, the road, engine and wind noise contributed, but that's another whole story... and solution path for another day. I think speakers just hanging in space (back not enclosed) negatively impacted the quality of the sound, and the cards were not going to last much longer.
Options
schedule 40 4" cap |
If you have a parcel shelf under the dash, you can set/mount speakers in boxes placed on the shelf. The shelf narrows on the outer edges, so speakers most likely fit best near the center of the bus, near the central air pipe. I don't have those shelves, but even near the center they do not look terribly deep. When I first bought Hapy, a prior owner (PO) had mounted small boxed speakers to the big metal air vent boxes. They didn't work, and the PO had taken the stereo with him so I pitched those speakers. Of these options, I do prefer rear-facing / under-the-dash locations over the door cards. The trick will be figuring out how to mount them, and exactly where they will provide sound best.
5-1/4" Thinking
test fitting 5-1/4 speaker |
Ever seeking cheap, yet effective, solutions, I constructed one. But, of course, not without checking out off-the-shelf options:
- There is a guy (Diablo Royale) on eBay who makes plastic speaker pods in Texas. I bought a pair of his mounting pods for Oliver so I could mount the front speakers down by our feet, against the outer walls (See MGB Interior Panels - Part 1 or better yet MGB Gets Sound - Part 1). Diablo Royale had pods that fit 5-1/4" speakers, but they were still open-backed, $50US per pair and at least 6 inches across at the top by 4 inches deep. The base was at least 7 inches across. Looking at the under-dash, that would have been pretty ugly. Without a flush backwall, which would be nearly impossible with the contours up there, the sound would not throw as well. To make them fully enclosed / flush, I would have to construct a rear side.
- There are MDF speaker boxes, wrapped in trunk carpet. These are also larger, but at least they have a back. The smallest ones I saw for the 5-1/4" round speaker were 8 inches square (or larger as rectangles) and 5 inches deep. If I had a parcel shelf, they might fit, but really only in the center since those parcel shelves get shallow as these near the door A-pillar.
better view of a metal bracket attempt |
It turns out that a 4" schedule 40 PVC pipe cap is a great starting point for a speaker pod. The one I found is 2 inches deep from lip to rear wall, but I saw deeper ones on the 'net. The inner diameter is 4-1/2 inches. I know; you're asking "but you said 4 inch cap". Yes, that's right. The schedule 40 4" cap refers to the industry standard 4" pipe, which is an approximation of the inner diameter of the pipe. Since the cap goes around the outside of that pipe, there is additional diameter to account for the thickness of a schedule 40 PVC pipe (here's a link for more dimensions). Neat, eh? Oh, and these are about 1/2 the price of the Diablo Royale pods at less than $15US each, made-in-USA, they are available at your local hardware store -and- they have a back wall.
5-1/4" Speaker to Cap
Once in hand, we need to figure out how to mount the speaker to it, and then how to mount the unit into the bus. I started with the second question first by moving the speakers around while playing the stereo. I concluded that the farther to the outside I could put the speaker, the better the overall sound. I resolved with placement directly below the dash vents. To mount, I bore a pair of holes through the cap, and mounted the cap/pod to the metal vent cover. Since the vent cover could be removed and replaced, I could use bolt/nut /washer fasteners instead of self-tapping or sheet metal screws. I think the nut-bolt combination creates a better, more reliable attachment.
plastic mounting tabs |
So, how did I resolve it? In true ghetto style, of course. While cleaning up my garage, I found a lid for one of those larger rectangular plastic storage tubs. The lip bent around 90* and extended about 3/4". With tin snips, I cut a series of pieces out, each about 1/2" wide and at least 1/2" into the top of the lid. This produced 8 little plastic "L" shapes to construct mounts out of. I marked and drilled holes, and then cut away the excess material with the snips. They are barely visible now, and once I wrap the pods with trunk carpet of some other fabric, they will mostly disappear.
5-1/4" Pod Wiring
With the physical mounting solved, I turned to wire routing. Ideally, I would have included a wiring cup. I omitted it because the flat bottom of the cap/pod will be pressed against the bus for mounting. Then, I thought about putting a cup on the side. I figured between the curvature and the shallow space within, it simply wouldn't work. So, instead, I drilled a small hole in the side of the cap/pod, and sent the pair of speaker wires through it. Leaving some slack in the wires within the cap/pod, I applied a blob of caulk into the hole to seal it back up.
Polyfill?
polyfill'd |
isolation foam |
Testing
wired up and fired up |
That's it for today. thanks, as always, for following along-
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